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932805 No.183648   [Reply]

We seriously need to find a way to deflate the big coffers of the rich , you know the forbes list
people who "employ" thousands,
Is it possible for monetary inflation to be non uniform? make sure certain people pay much more for certain services?

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>> No.184531  

>>184031

The United States Government has been printing money like mad since the economic meltdown.

>> No.184532  

>>184531
The US FED has been emitting money like toilet paper since the Viet Nam police action.

Interestingly this has not lead to money becoming superfluous to the economy.

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>>184532
I'm sorry, what did you say?



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48241 No.169476   [Reply]

I was wondering, how would workers councils, Council Communism, Soviets, Syndicalism and or Co-operative Commonwealths end wage slavery?

I know this is simplistic but wont I still have to get out of bed every morning or leave my family once a day and use my labor to produce enough to recieve enough for the needs of myself and my family?

Aren't we all just fooling ourselves into thinking that if we get rid of the boss we'd be better off? Instead of actually getting rid of the factory itself?

Now, I'm not a primitivist. I like the good things about technology (music, internet, video games etc.)and want advancements in health care technology. But it seems to me like reorganizing work to alleviate wage slavery when work is the sole cause of wage slavery is like doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

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>> No.184313  

>>182992
Then why do so-called "anarchists" want to force bullshit like universal healthcare and unions and other psuedo-communism on me? That's not fucking Anarchism, and if support this, you are not an Anarchist, you are a faggot that loves the state and is a lazy piece of shit. Unions can be MORE tyrannical than corporations. Unions CLAIM to represent the interests of their members, but that's an enormous crock of shit. When I not only have to pay a $200 per year union due, AND get paid less, simply because someone has been working longer than me, and I HAVE to join the union to work at a particular business, that's called fucking tyranny. Fuck you communist pieces of shit.

>> No.184589  

What ever to pride in accomplishing the work, or that YOU know that you did a job well done?

Also, Is Employe of the month a valid means for motivation, Or is it a pure popularity contest? I feel its a validation that one would exceed the standards and rise as an exceptional worker above others and be a model for others to strive for. I understand it as recognition by your uppers that they appreciate your strive to continue to bring satisfaction to the clientele.

>> No.184826  

Sure, employee of the month is a recognition by your masters that you are serving them well, however, only one can get that acclaim for any given month, even if many exceeded the standards and are worthy of recognition during that time period. It generates competition where cooperation would better server the customer. But it is not the clientele that gets to pick the award winner. Who does it serve really?



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237885 No.176913   [Reply]

Ok, I was thinking of the cost effective way to be free of most of societies influences.
I came up with a country house that can be built considerably less with bales of hay for walls covered by chicken wire then stacko (sand grit stuff). Chicken wire helps keep it on. Then you toss on a few resources like a cistern, gas/ethonal generator (followed by green long term solutions later).
OR, self designed and built houseboat. It is suppose to be cheaper to build than buy. Would need tools but what is new. >.> greater fantasy would be making one that can handle ocean waters then traveling abroad.
...
Internet access would be provided by a cell phone with global/country based internet connection (satelites), with a pc connected to it (as the modem).
...
What do you think?

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>> No.184724  

The problem with your plan on to get the Internet is that is going to be dependant on a cell phone company (which entails a mailing address, credit card, bank) and you say connect a modem, and leave it at that but you are still going to going to need an ISP to dial into, again exactly off the grid. Also on to make the problem worse, sat phones use country code +881 meaning you are going to pay international rates to dial that ISP no matter where you are. On the technical side, sate phones have a data rate of about 2.5 KB/s compared to regular dialup of 56Kb/s. You can get 56K terminals for satphone but they cost $200+ a month and the dish has to remain accurately aligned meaning that they would not work on a boat.

>> No.184725  

The problem with your plan on to get the Internet is that is going to be dependant on a cell phone company (which entails a mailing address, credit card, bank) and you say connect a modem, and leave it at that but you are still going to going to need an ISP to dial into, again exactly off the grid. Also on to make the problem worse, sat phones use country code +881 meaning you are going to pay international rates to dial that ISP no matter where you are. On the technical side, sate phones have a data rate of about 2.5 KB/s compared to regular dialup of 56Kb/s. You can get 56K terminals for satphone but they cost $200+ a month and the dish has to remain accurately aligned meaning that they would not work on a boat.

>> No.184825  

>>184724
>>184725
Excellent points.
What would not work on a boat with todays infrastructure, but anywhere with people, is to have a mesh networking cloud, based on the pico peering agreement, and at least two independend lines to some traffic exchange nodes, or gateways to other clouds.



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43797 No.184565   [Reply]

The revolution is coming comrades!

http://anonym.to/?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ScFU0UxKWA&feature=related

>> No.184572  

Soon, comrade, soon!
The world will be fresh and new and fair, and there's nothing they can do about it!



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30905 No.167508   [Reply]

maybe if congress got high or sumthin they might actually do sumthing almost constructive

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>> No.173028  

>>172933
Close. Communism is socialism without a gov't. The ideal of communism is to remove a ruling class. Marx saw socialism as a vital step on that path.

>> No.182995  
>maybe if congress got high or sumthin they might actually do sumthing almost constructive

implying that congressmen don't do drugs.

>> No.184309  

Communism is a fucking joke. You can't equalize wealth without a centralized control structure (aka an oppressive government). You can't FORCE people to share. STFU and GTFO.



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51877 No.163878   [Reply]

So /an/fags i wonder if 90% of people on here understand anarchism at all. And i think the other 10% that know a bit are middle class self righteous faggots that think they will lead a cause that will change the world. The majority of these fantasy's involve toppling a corrupt government (See V for Vendetta), this fantasy then ends with them being in charge, so is this not a contradiction to anarchism?

So i think the people on here that think they are righteous revolutionaries should realize that they will most likely not accomplish much in life let alone lead a revolution

tl;dr YOU ARE NOT V

Love Banksy

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>> No.183625  

Anarchy will never exist, because the only people that actually WANT anarchy are social outcasts and outCASTES and parasites that could never function without the state anyway. Thus, natural selection comes into play, and any attempt at an anarchist state (which is a fucking oxymoron in and of itself) is bound to fail.
Tell me this, Anarchists, how are you going to stop me from setting up my own Fiefdom within you anarchist paradise?

>> No.183909  

>>183625
You are correct, an anarchist country will never exist. The closest to getting a country where everyone considered the same is a communist type government. But ofcourse people are to selfish to realise that they can use their life to help make the others better and life quietly and happy

>> No.183961  

>>183625

>Anarchy will never exist

So who governs the internet, then?

>anarchist state (which is a fucking oxymoron in and of itself)

Yes. It is. Who uses such phrases?

>how are you going to stop me from setting up my own Fiefdom

By removing the incentive.

>>183909

tl;dr. lick ling to view the boring shit.


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38658 No.144855   [Reply]

Has anyone read Lenin's "The State And Revolution"?
What do you think of it's criticisms of Anarchist theory found in chapter 4?

( http://anonym.to/?http://www.marx.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch04.htm#s2 for those of you who do not have a large collection of Lenin's works like myself)

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>> No.173074  

>>145037
"We have said that there could not have been Social-Democratic consciousness among the workers. It would have to be brought to them from without. The history of all countries shows that the working class, exclusively by its own effort, is able to develop only trade union consciousness, i.e., the conviction that it is necessary to combine in unions, fight the employers, and strive to compel the government to pass necessary labour legislation, etc."

  • "What is to be done?", Chapter B. 1902.

Congratulations, you take a quote of context from a chapter detailing that you must get the view out there of an alternative system (a propagandists words and an agitators voice).

It's like citing Chomsky as a "bad person" because you said non-violent resistance to Nazis is bad when the quote is "you can't have non-violent resistance against the Nazis in a concentration camp, to take an extreme case..."

"We must take up actively the political education of the working class and the development of its political consciousness."

tl;dr. lick ling to view the boring shit.
>> No.173367  

>>173074
Isn't bolshevism just another kind of paternalism?

>> No.182994  

i have not read "the state and revolution" but after following your ling i think that lenin did not understand that most anarchists believe in mutual aid to a greater extent than most people.



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392172 No.167505   [Reply]

smash the fash!

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Damn right!

>> No.168027  

Well done to everyone who turned up in Manchester yesterday, despite the UAF trying to PA Anarchists and Antifa. Mind you putting aside sectarianism is one of the most important things we can do atm.

>> No.182882  

antifa hooligans!



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25332 No.176888   [Reply]

So, what are /an/'s thoughts on Wombling up at demos? Good or bad.

GOOD: Protects you from police attacks and can be used as a "shock force" to break police lines.

BAD: Can make the demo as a whole look more threatening as confrontational, allowing the police to use more force without loosing PR.

Personally, I think wearing a helmet and arm guards/leg guards under my trousers is as far as I would go. Shields seem a bit much.

>> No.177014  

I'm generally into non-violence, but there is such a thing as self defence, which I'd say wombling and other similar tactics come under.

Be creative, make a shield that is also a sign or something. Also remember to do it all in way where you retain mobility.

Also remember that that cops are as much vicitims as anyone, they simply lack class consciousness.

tl;dr remain mobile and don't get emotionally involved to have maximum impact.

>> No.177017  

eh i don't mind it i made the mistake of not doing it for the g20 and got my ribs bashed in and that was a pussy of a riot

>> No.182881  

last time i saw a proper white block was at the Swedish squatters festival



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194111 No.181105   [Reply]

What's wrong with being a Libertarian?

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>> No.181939  

>>181824
either

>> No.182793  

>>181939
Interesting, because those two philosophies contradict each other.

>> No.182877  

well were i come from libertarian mean anti-authoritarian :P wich is not america



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